The Spriters Resource/Hard to Rip Games - Revision history

Yawackhary at 01:59, 9 October 2024

2024-10-09T01:59:55Z

Yawackhary: Pro Tennis Simulator uses Spectrum format graphics and is rippable on CapriceForever

2023-09-11T09:53:04Z

Pro Tennis Simulator uses Spectrum format graphics and is rippable on CapriceForever

Yawackhary at 00:14, 29 August 2023

2023-08-29T00:14:52Z

Yawackhary at 20:05, 10 August 2023

2023-08-10T20:05:58Z

Yawackhary at 02:01, 23 July 2023

2023-07-23T02:01:48Z

Yawackhary at 01:54, 6 December 2021

2021-12-06T01:54:34Z

Chickenx4: /* Arcade */

2021-05-11T20:50:50Z

‎Arcade

Superjustinbros: /* Professor Pac-Man */

2019-03-21T03:43:24Z

‎Professor Pac-Man

Shadowman44: /* Pop & Chips (Super Cassette Vision) */

2019-03-16T10:40:30Z

‎Pop & Chips (Super Cassette Vision)

Yawackhary at 20:27, 16 January 2019

2019-01-16T20:27:15Z

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 '''By Fair Means... or Foul'''<br>
 '''California Games'''<br>
 '''Double Dragon''' (Richard Aplin version)<br>
 '''Double Dragon II: The Revenge''' (Richard Aplin version)<br>
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 ==Genesis==
-While a lot of the Genesis library have already been ripped excluding many of the sports games, there are some high profile games that have problems ripping. A few of these are on the site but not all.
+While a lot of the Genesis library have already been ripped excluding many of the sports games, there are some high profile games that have problems ripping. A few of these are on the site but not all. One common issue with Genesis games in general is compression and only certain ones are known ("Nemesis", Rob Northen, Koei).
 ===Adventures of Batman & Robin===
-Being a late Genesis game, it uses various programming tricks and is considered one of the most technically impressive games on the console. The ROM is compressed. All of these makes it a challenge to rip the game and it does not help that the game is hard too.
+===Bimini Run===
 ===Comix Zone===
-A Sega 1st party game done by Sega Technical Institute and is a late Genesis game pushing some limits. What makes this hard to rip is that the ROM is completely compressed and ripping from the game is hard. Why? The characters have many poses, some that are situational and timing on certain poses is also tricky to trigger. When captured via screenshots, the sprites leave a shadow that is not part of the sprite and may have another sprite overlapping. When tile ripped using a tile viewer in an emulator, they are not easy to assemble either and only load one pose at a time. A few have tried to rip from this game however the sheets are either incomplete or just stopped progress.
+===The Immortal===
-The game apparently uses a form of LZSS compression however this is undocumented and no one so far as figured it out.
+===Instruments of Chaos starring Indiana Jones===
 ===Virgin/Shiny Games===
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 Please note that these affect the original versions done by EA (as well as High Score Productions and Foley Hi-Tech) and not the other versions of the game that are on other consoles that might have different art styles. There is also the Super Strike Trilogy on the Sega CD that might have extra sprites however chances are that it has the same problems as the cartridge version.
 ==SNES==

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 '''Pro Tennis'''<br>
 '''Pro Tennis Tour'''<br>
 '''Rad Ramp Racer'''<br>
 '''RBI Baseball 2'''<br>

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 ===Same Colour Background as the sprites===
-Many games use the same colours for their background as their sprites, usually black but green and others have been used. This is very similar to Genesis sprite ripping. This is mainly a Mode 0 issue however a few Mode 1 games suffer from this too such as Match Point. The games list here cannot be corrected via the graphics viewer in Caprice Forever:
+Many games use the same colours for their background as their sprites, usually black but green and others have been used. This is very similar to Genesis sprite ripping. This is mainly a Mode 0 issue however a few Mode 1 games suffer from this too such as Match Point. The games listed here cannot be corrected via the graphics viewer in Caprice Forever:
 '''750cc Grand Prix''' (not only this affects the grey background affecting the bike sprites but also a black on the tires where it should be purple that the tile viewer does not pick up on, Caprice Forever can't rip this as it doesn't support reverse endian and have to manually arrange into 4 pixel strips.)<br>
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 '''Pro Tennis Tour'''<br>
 '''Professional Tennis Simulator (Codemasters)'''<br>
 '''RBI Baseball 2'''<br>
 '''RoboCop'''<br>
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 The game displays the animations in either Mode 1 or 2 then converts to Mode 0 as trying to rip from Mode 0 itself only shows garbage, the game itself runs on Mode 0. This means that you cannot rip the sprites outside of whatever is on screen.
 ===John Brandwood Games===
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 ===Pop & Chips (Super Cassette Vision)===
 The game was not dumped properly and will crash if the player does not collect the little character that comes out of the fruit.

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 This game uses an odd graphics engine that has peculiarly sized sprites (not perfectly square pixels). Screenshotting using MAME will distort the screencap PNGs. Configuring MAME's ini file will get rid of the blur but still stretch out the sprites in the screenshot. The only true way to capture the sprites as they were originally intended is to set MAME's video settings to pixel perfect and manually printscreen the game. It is an overall difficult process given that the game has fairly large sprites and a complete sprite sheet would ultimately end up being heftily large.
 ===Strikers 1945 1===
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 '''Match Point''' (this also uses Mode 1 that uses 4 colours so the black background mixes with the sprite making it almost impossible to rip via tiles)<br>
 '''Psycho Soldier'''<br>
 ===Compressed in the graphics viewer===
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 '''After Burner'''<br>
 '''Alien Storm''' (also suffers from black background)<br>
 '''Bad Dudes vs Dragon Ninja'''(also suffers from black background)<br>
 '''By Fair Means... or Foul'''<br>
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 '''RoboCop'''<br>
 '''Super Ski''' (the background also runs as a framebuffer, only the icons are displayed in the graphics viewer)<br>
 '''Thing on a Spring''' (Only Thing itself is compressed, the enemies are not compressed and are rippable)<br>
 '''Turbo Out Run'''<br>
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 ===Messed up on the tile viewer===
-At first glance, they might look rippable but then you notice that the character does not resemble what is on screen having lines that face the other direction in the tile viewer and changing it to reverse doesn't fix the sprites. Looking at Crystal Kingdom Dizzy, it might be either an endian issue or slightly compressed.
+At first glance, they might look rippable but then you notice that the character does not resemble what is on screen having lines that face the other direction in the tile viewer and changing it to reverse doesn't fix the sprites. Looking at Crystal Kingdom Dizzy, it might be either an endian issue or slightly compressed. This is a notable issue with Dave Thompson programmed games however also appears in games done by Ocean and Elite.
 '''Arkanoid 2: Revenge of Doh''' (The Vanus Spaceship and some of the sprites are messed up however the blocks and powerups aren't)<br>
 '''Batman: The Movie''' (Only the sprites, not the background tileset)<br>
 '''Commando'''<br>
 '''Crystal Kingdom Dizzy'''<br>
 '''Dynamite Dux'''<br>
 '''International Tennis'''<br>
 '''Live and Let Die'''<br>
 '''Match Day'''<br>
 '''Motorbike Madness''' (Only the rider, the Mode 1 background tileset is rippable)<br>
 ===No sprites in the tile viewer===
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 Some games just do not use sprites at all so they don't appear in the tile viewer. This also makes Target Renegade hard to rip because of overlapping characters of the nature of the beat em up genre. These exclude games that use vector graphics, raycasting, text based adventure games or other non-raster graphics games e.g. Star Wars or Hard Drivin'.
 '''International Karate + (IK+)'''<br>
 '''Rally 2/Grand Prix Rally'''<br>
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 The game runs on a framebuffer, tile and tilemap viewers only display the same frame as what is on screen. Sprite viewers do not work on the game and neither does ripping from the ROM.
 ==Unstable Games==

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 ==Amstrad CPC==
-By the nature of the home computer, there are bound to be some games that use impressive programming skills or really badly programmed games that makes ripping some games really tricky. Some of these also happen to be highly regarded games that are well liked and some of the best on the system. Since many of the games have the same issues, it is categoried by issue than what game has the issue unless it is unique.
+By the nature of the home computer, there are bound to be some games that use impressive programming skills or really badly programmed games that makes ripping some games really tricky. Some of these also happen to be highly regarded games that are well liked and some of the best on the system. Since many of the games have the same issues, it is categorized by issue than what game has the issue unless it is unique.
 This excludes games that have the wrong palette in the tile viewer as they can be corrected (e.g. most games programmed by DJL Software) unless they have an extra issue included.
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 ===Same Colour Background as the sprites===
-Many games use the same colours for their background as their sprites, usually black but green and others have been used. This is very similar to Genesis sprite ripping. This is mainly a Mode 0 issue however a few Mode 1 games suffer from this too such as Match Point.
+Many games use the same colours for their background as their sprites, usually black but green and others have been used. This is very similar to Genesis sprite ripping. This is mainly a Mode 0 issue however a few Mode 1 games suffer from this too such as Match Point. The games list here cannot be corrected via the graphics viewer in Caprice Forever:
-'''750cc Grand Prix''' (not only this affects the grey background affecting the bike sprites but also a black on the tires where it should be purple that the tile viewer does not pick up on, Caprice Forever can't rip this as it doesn't support reverse endian)<br>
+'''750cc Grand Prix''' (not only this affects the grey background affecting the bike sprites but also a black on the tires where it should be purple that the tile viewer does not pick up on, Caprice Forever can't rip this as it doesn't support reverse endian and have to manually arrange into 4 pixel strips.)<br>
 '''Alien Syndrome''' (see Match Point for more info, also has layers too)<br>
 '''Auf Wiedersehen Monty''' (some sprites also have the wrong palette however the sprites are stored in a tidy fashion)<br>
 '''Match Point''' (this also uses Mode 1 that uses 4 colours so the black background mixes with the sprite making it almost impossible to rip via tiles)<br>
 '''Psycho Soldier'''<br>
 '''Return of the Jedi'''<br>
-===Compressed in the tile viewer===
+===Compressed in the graphics viewer===
-These games are either completely or partly compressed meaning that ripping these games can not be done via the tile viewer at all or almost useless to rip from since only a segment is uncompressed. Also in the case of By Fair Means or Foul because it uses overlapping sprites meaning that the game is almost impossible to rip from unless someone figures out the compression routine.
+These games are either completely or partly compressed meaning that ripping these games can not be done via the graphics viewer at all or almost useless to rip from since only a segment is uncompressed. Also in the case of By Fair Means or Foul because it uses overlapping sprites meaning that the game is almost impossible to rip from unless someone figures out the compression routine.
 '''Adidas Championship Football'''<br>
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 '''Double Dragon II: The Revenge''' (Richard Aplin version)<br>
 '''Prehistorik'''<br>
 '''Pro Tennis Tour'''<br>
 '''Professional Tennis Simulator (Codemasters)'''<br>
 '''RBI Baseball 2'''<br>
 '''RoboCop'''<br>
 '''Thing on a Spring''' (Only Thing itself is compressed, the enemies are not compressed and are rippable)<br>
 '''Turbo Out Run'''<br>
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 To make matters worse, the game crashes when the ball is off the pitch and reboots back to the Amstrad CPC boot up screen. It is unknown whether this happens on real hardware.
 ===Interleaving sprites===
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 ===Messed up on the tile viewer===
-At first glance, they might look rippable but then you notice that the character does not resemble what is on screen having lines that face the other direction in the tile viewer and changing it to reverse doesn't fix the sprites. Looking at Crystal Kingdom Dizzy, it might be either an endian issue or slightly compressed. Match Day and Track and Field have the same issue since they are done by the same developers.
+At first glance, they might look rippable but then you notice that the character does not resemble what is on screen having lines that face the other direction in the tile viewer and changing it to reverse doesn't fix the sprites. Looking at Crystal Kingdom Dizzy, it might be either an endian issue or slightly compressed.
 '''Arkanoid 2: Revenge of Doh''' (The Vanus Spaceship and some of the sprites are messed up however the blocks and powerups aren't)<br>
 '''Commando'''<br>
 '''Crystal Kingdom Dizzy'''<br>
 '''Dynamite Dux'''<br>
 '''Match Day'''<br>
-'''Track and Field'''<br>
+'''Motorbike Madness''' (Only the rider, the Mode 1 background tileset is rippable)<br>
 ===No sprites in the tile viewer===

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 ===Clay Fighter and Clay Fighter 2===
-While many SNES games aren't compressed or if they are they use a known format, these two games are one of the few exceptions so a tile viewer can't be used for this game. It uses an unknown compression format. The game is also a fighter, a genre known for many animations to be used. Some emulators also have problems displaying the game too. It might be possible with vSNES using savestates however it would require patience.
+While many SNES games aren't compressed or if they are they use a known format, these two games are one of the few exceptions so a tile viewer can't be used for this game. It uses an unknown compression format. The game is also a fighter, a genre known for many animations to be used. Some emulators also have problems displaying the game too. It is possible with vSNES using savestates and modern emulators that offer tools such as [[BizHawk]] and bsnes however it would require patience.
 ==Unstable Games==

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	This game uses an odd graphics engine that has peculiarly sized sprites (not perfectly square pixels). Screenshotting using MAME will distort the screencap PNGs. Configuring MAME's ini file will get rid of the blur but still stretch out the sprites in the screenshot. The only true way to capture the sprites as they were originally intended is to set MAME's video settings to pixel perfect and manually printscreen the game. It is an overall difficult process given that the game has fairly large sprites and a complete sprite sheet would ultimately end up being heftily large.		This game uses an odd graphics engine that has peculiarly sized sprites (not perfectly square pixels). Screenshotting using MAME will distort the screencap PNGs. Configuring MAME's ini file will get rid of the blur but still stretch out the sprites in the screenshot. The only true way to capture the sprites as they were originally intended is to set MAME's video settings to pixel perfect and manually printscreen the game. It is an overall difficult process given that the game has fairly large sprites and a complete sprite sheet would ultimately end up being heftily large.
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		+	===Strikers 1945 1===
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		+	A Shoot em' up, so far we only got the Stage 5 Rocket, well we need more than that, we can have the Kii, Battleships, enemies and more

	==Amstrad CPC==		==Amstrad CPC==

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 ===Professor Pac-Man===
-This game uses an odd graphics engine that has peculiarly sized sprites (not perfectly square pixels). Screenshotting using MAME will distort the screencap PNGs. Configuring MAME's ini file will get rid of the blur but still stretch out the sprites in the screenshot. The only true way to capture the sprites as they were originally intended is to set MAME's video settings to pixel perfect and manually printscreen the game. It can be quite tedious given that the game has fairly large sprites and a sprite sheet would end up being heftily large.
+This game uses an odd graphics engine that has peculiarly sized sprites (not perfectly square pixels). Screenshotting using MAME will distort the screencap PNGs. Configuring MAME's ini file will get rid of the blur but still stretch out the sprites in the screenshot. The only true way to capture the sprites as they were originally intended is to set MAME's video settings to pixel perfect and manually printscreen the game. It is an overall difficult process given that the game has fairly large sprites and a complete sprite sheet would ultimately end up being heftily large.
 ==Amstrad CPC==

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	===Pop & Chips (Super Cassette Vision)===		===Pop & Chips (Super Cassette Vision)===
−	The game was not dumped properly and will crash ~~after~~ the ~~first stage~~.	+	The game was not dumped properly and will crash if the player does not collect the little character that comes out of the fruit.

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 Please note '''do not''' request these games to be ripped, the chances of these getting ripped are low and it would not help anyone.
 ==Arcade==
 ===Many Sega Games===
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 ===Professor Pac-Man===
-This game uses an odd graphics engine that has peculiarly sized sprites (not perfectly square pixels). Screenshotting using MAME will distort the screencap PNG's. Configuring Mame's ini file will get rid of the blur but still stretch out the sprites in the screenshot. The only true way to capture the sprites as they were originally intended is to set Mame's video settings to pixel perfect and manually printscreen the game. It can be quite tedious given that the game has fairly large sprites and a sprite sheet would end up being heftily large.
+This game uses an odd graphics engine that has peculiarly sized sprites (not perfectly square pixels). Screenshotting using MAME will distort the screencap PNGs. Configuring MAME's ini file will get rid of the blur but still stretch out the sprites in the screenshot. The only true way to capture the sprites as they were originally intended is to set MAME's video settings to pixel perfect and manually printscreen the game. It can be quite tedious given that the game has fairly large sprites and a sprite sheet would end up being heftily large.
 ==Amstrad CPC==
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 Many games use the same colours for their background as their sprites, usually black but green and others have been used. This is very similar to Genesis sprite ripping. This is mainly a Mode 0 issue however a few Mode 1 games suffer from this too such as Match Point.
-'''750cc Grand Prix''' (not only this affects the grey background affecting the bike sprites but also a black on the tires where it should be purple that the tile viewer does not pick up on)<br>
+'''750cc Grand Prix''' (not only this affects the grey background affecting the bike sprites but also a black on the tires where it should be purple that the tile viewer does not pick up on, Caprice Forever can't rip this as it doesn't support reverse endian)<br>
 '''Alien Syndrome''' (see Match Point for more info, also has layers too)<br>
 '''Auf Wiedersehen Monty''' (some sprites also have the wrong palette however the sprites are stored in a tidy fashion)<br>
 '''Kwik Snax'''<br>
 '''Match Point''' (this also uses Mode 1 that uses 4 colours so the black background mixes with the sprite making it almost impossible to rip via tiles)<br>
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 The game apparently uses a form of LZSS compression however this is undocumented and no one so far as figured it out.
-===Dave Perry Games===
+===Virgin/Shiny Games===
-Dave Perry was a programmer who was with Virgin but then moved on to Shiny. The games in question are Mick and Mack: Global Gladiators, Aladdin, Earthworm Jim 1 and 2, RoboCop vs The Terminator and The Jungle Book. Due to Dave Perry's programming, the sprites are stored in a nightmare fashion in the ROM with pieces being all over the place and also hard to assemble so you would have to capture them via an emulator. Some of these games also have a lot of poses depending on which character you are ripping.
+The games in question are Mick and Mack: Global Gladiators, Aladdin, Earthworm Jim 1 and 2, RoboCop vs The Terminator and The Jungle Book. Due to Dave Perry's programming, the sprites are stored in a nightmare fashion in the ROM with pieces being all over the place and also hard to assemble so you would have to capture them via an emulator. Some of these games also have a lot of poses depending on which character you are ripping.
 Some of these have been ripped though mainly because of dedication of the rippers and ripping projects.
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 While many SNES games aren't compressed or if they are they use a known format, these two games are one of the few exceptions so a tile viewer can't be used for this game. It uses an unknown compression format. The game is also a fighter, a genre known for many animations to be used. Some emulators also have problems displaying the game too. It might be possible with vSNES using savestates however it would require patience.
 ==Unstable Games==
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 ===Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure (32X)===
-==Pop & Chips (Super Cassette Vision)==
+===Pop & Chips (Super Cassette Vision)===
 The game was not dumped properly and will crash after the first stage.