Amstrad CPC - Revision history

Gamerpcx at 04:57, 9 May 2024

2024-05-09T04:57:15Z

Yawackhary at 22:49, 12 April 2023

2023-04-12T22:49:44Z

Superjustinbros: /* WinApe */

2018-07-20T22:40:39Z

‎WinApe

Yawackhary: /* CapriceForever */

2018-06-07T22:41:55Z

‎CapriceForever

Yawackhary: /* CapriceForever */

2018-06-07T22:36:24Z

‎CapriceForever

Yawackhary: /* WinApe */

2018-06-06T20:53:08Z

‎WinApe

Yawackhary: /* CapriceForever */

2018-06-06T20:43:03Z

‎CapriceForever

Yawackhary at 15:22, 6 June 2018

2018-06-06T15:22:07Z

Yawackhary: /* WinApe */

2018-02-25T17:37:08Z

‎WinApe

Yawackhary: /* Sugarbox */

2018-02-25T17:32:16Z

‎Sugarbox

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	==Ripping Tools==		==Ripping Tools==
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	===WinApe===		===WinApe===

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 ===WinApe===
+WinApe is the most compatible emulator of the CPC emulators (out of the games tested, only Mission Elevator fails), it can also emulate CPC+ and GX-4000 games. It also has a graphics viewer. Compatibility on computers is questionable where people have problems getting the emulator to work and it is not screenshot/capture friendly due to its slight blurry output that can not be fixed. Since the last update was 2016, it is highly unlikely that there are any more updates.
 ===CapriceForever===
-One of the oldest emulators, it has decent compatibility and is the only emulator to have its correct palette (WinApe is off by its middle values being too low, dsp needs some slight tweaks) but doesn't support the + range or the GX4000. New versions of the emulator as of April 2018 onwards now come with a Graphics Editor meaning that sprites can be ripped using this and because you can edit the tiles, it means games that use a black/same colour background can be ripped with this emulator making it an advantage to WinApe. It can also rip compressed sprites from Sorcery.
+Downsides are that menus might not display properly on your computer due to the themes, a bug where direction keys/spacebar can get stuck by pausing while using the joystick requiring to close the emulator and a spacebar conflict where you would have to deactivate the joystick if a game requires to press the button (that can affect a game if it uses both joystick and space).
-Only downside, menus might not display properly on your computer meaning editing options is hard.
+===CPCEC===
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 ===dsp===
-While it is a multi-purpose emulator, it does have decent Amstrad CPC emulation and is simple to use. While it is problematic with its compatibility with games with some games not working, there are plenty of games that do work and will get more accurate in the future. It is the only emulator that has the same screen size as its sprites with other emulators doubling with its display so it is recommended if you use the capture route. It also works on low powered computers at full speed.
+While it is a multi-purpose emulator, it does have decent Amstrad CPC emulation and is simple to use. While it is problematic with its compatibility with games with some games not working, there are plenty of games that do work and will get more accurate in the future. It is the only emulator that has the same screen size as its sprites with other emulators doubling with its display so it is recommended if you use the capture route. It also works on very low powered computers at full speed.
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 ===WinApe===
-WinApe is the most compatible emulator of the CPC emulators (out of the games tested only Mission Elevator fails), it can also emulate CPC+ and GX-4000 games too unlike the other emulators. It also has a tile viewer. Compatibility on computers is questionable where people have problems getting the emulator to work and it is not screenshot/capture friendly due to its slight blurry output that can not be fixed.
+WinApe is the most compatible emulator of the CPC emulators (out of the games tested, only Mission Elevator fails), it can also emulate CPC+ and GX-4000 games too unlike the other emulators. It also has a tile viewer. Compatibility on computers is questionable where people have problems getting the emulator to work and it is not screenshot/capture friendly due to its slight blurry output that can not be fixed.
 ===CapriceForever===

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 ===CapriceForever===
-See the above except skip the step about ROMs (Caprice Forever is set to Amstrad 6128 UK by default) and to access the Graphics Editor, you go to Extra. Make sure that you have the latest version, only more recently that this function is in the emulator.
+See the above except skip the step about ROMs (Caprice Forever is set to Amstrad 6128 UK by default) and to access the Graphics Editor, you go to Extra. Make sure that you have the latest version from 18.6 onwards, only more recently that this function is in the emulator.
-One advantage to WinApe is that games that use a black/same colour background can be ripped. To do highlight the tile that you want to edit, then double click. This takes you to the Tile Editor. Click on the Palette icon, then click on the first colour to change it choosing which one out of the system palette to choose from, the dark green second one down from the middle column is recommended but one that doesn't clash with the rest of the palette. Click apply and it changes the palette so it can be ripped, if it doesn't show click Refresh. After its changed, either do it while the emulator is paused or reset afterwards depending on the game just in case the game gets buggy. Some games do not like to be edited and crash.
+One advantage to WinApe is that games that use a black/same colour background can be ripped. To do highlight the tile that you want to edit, then double click. This takes you to the Tile Editor. Click on the Palette icon, then click on the first colour to change it choosing which one out of the system palette to choose from, the dark green second one down from the middle column or the pink are recommended. It might also be the last colour as in the case of Whopper Chase. Click apply and it changes the palette so it can be ripped, if it doesn't show click Refresh. After its changed, either do it while the emulator is paused or reset afterwards depending on the game just in case the game gets buggy. Some games do not like to be edited and crash.
 ==Suggested Emulators==

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 ===CapriceForever===
-One of the oldest emulators, it has decent compatibility and is the only emulator to have its correct palette (WinApe is off by its middle values being too low, dsp needs some slight tweaks). New versions of the emulator now come with a Graphics Editor meaning that sprites can be ripped using this and because you can edit the tiles, it means games that use a black/same colour background can be ripped with this emulator making it an advantage to WinApe. It can also rip compressed sprites from Sorcery.
+One of the oldest emulators, it has decent compatibility and is the only emulator to have its correct palette (WinApe is off by its middle values being too low, dsp needs some slight tweaks) but doesn't support the + range or the GX4000. New versions of the emulator as of April 2018 onwards now come with a Graphics Editor meaning that sprites can be ripped using this and because you can edit the tiles, it means games that use a black/same colour background can be ripped with this emulator making it an advantage to WinApe. It can also rip compressed sprites from Sorcery.
 Only downside, menus might not display properly on your computer meaning editing options is hard.

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 Please note: The tile viewer is not a miracle cure and your mileage may vary on the game that you are ripping. They might have everything, a certain amount, don't display sprites at all or have problems. Please see [[The Spriters Resource/Hard to Rip Games|here]] on the issues that games suffer from and some are from well regarded games too.
 ==Suggested Emulators==
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 WinApe is the most compatible emulator of the CPC emulators (out of the games tested only Mission Elevator fails), it can also emulate CPC+ and GX-4000 games too unlike the other emulators. It also has a tile viewer and the only emulator that has this feature for sprite ripping. Compatibility on computers is questionable where people have problems getting the emulator to work and it is not screenshot/capture friendly due to its slight blurry output that can not be fixed.
 ===Sugarbox===
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 Oh and for most people change the keyboard/ROM settings since the default is French using Azerty rather than Qwerty (the programmer is French and the emulator has problems downloading outside of France), go for 6128 UK but you might have to use 664 UK for a few games.
 ===dsp===

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 The CPC+ and GX-4000 games also have another display mode and those are hardware sprites. Not many games support this however it is used in Dick Tracy, Epyx World of Sports (it looks just like a Master System game) and one of the tennis games.
-There are 4 options; '''CPC''', '''Screen''', '''Linear''' and '''Reverse'''. '''CPC''' is the standard one, '''Screen''' is basically a print screen of the image done in a complex way (it is easier to print screen via another emulator), '''Linear''' is used in a few games and '''Reverse''' is used in an very few games, so far only Amilie Minuit uses it for Amilie's walking poses and the regular CPC option displays the same sprites anyway. Please note that not all of the library have been tested (currently 80+ games) and some many use the other options.
+There are 4 options; '''CPC''', '''Screen''', '''Linear''' and '''Reverse'''. '''CPC''' is the standard one, '''Screen''' is basically a print screen of the image done in a complex way (it is easier to print screen via another emulator), '''Linear''' is used in a few games and '''Reverse''' is used in an very few games, so far only Amilie Minuit uses it for Amilie's walking poses and the regular CPC option displays the same sprites anyway as well as Twin Turbo V8. Please note that not all of the library have been tested (currently 100+ games) and some many use the other options.
-Some games have a neat and tidy size set up fitting into a 16X16 square while others are completely random, in that case have the height being around 40 or so for less cropping. Then after that just print screen and paste the image on your prefered image editor, crop the sprites and paste. You might have to fiddle with the offset, width and height for every sprite as some games just do it in their own way with no standard.
+Some games have a neat and tidy size set up fitting into a 16X16 square while others are completely random, in that case have the height being around 150 or so for less cropping. Then after that just print screen and paste the image on your prefered image editor, crop the sprites and paste. You might have to fiddle with the offset, width and height for every sprite as some games just do it in their own way with no standard.
 After everything is done, the sprites have to be shrunk to 50% of their size since the tile viewer displays them twice the size despite the Zoom being at 1. This was spotted when you use the height function and it is displayed double in an image editor.

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 ===Sugarbox===
-A more recent emulator that has decent compatibility and has some copy protection schemes emulated but seems abandoned now. There is no pause button and the screenshot function does not work. It is also one of the few emulators that gets The Great Giana Sisters working without any graphical glitches.
+A more recent emulator that has decent compatibility, has some copy protection schemes emulated and now can emulate the + range as well as the GX4000. Due to that the emulator is still WIP unlike WinApe, it is getting more updates, easier chance of working compared to WinApe and is even compatible with Dual Shock 4 controllers. It is also one of the few emulators that gets The Great Giana Sisters working without any graphical glitches. Only thing really missing is a tile viewer and editor as well as a ingame palette editor since it does have a debugger too.
 ===CapriceForever===